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| I have just received my 1st edition copy today (6th February) and it looks very nice. I have only 'flicked' through it and it looks like a good read indeed. A lovely plate of Butterflies on page 72 from a book dating from 1741!! Fantastic plates on page 329 taken from a book/books 'Coloured Figures of the Birds of the British Isles' 1885-98. there were 421 paintings reproduced for this above publication on birds and I'm sure that would have been a cracking publication all those years ago! It seems that this book will require the reader to sit down & read it rather than looking at the pictures like I have only done so far! Oh to be retired. So many hobbies/interests & too little time! I also quite like the Brown with Red 'NN' logos inside front & back covers. I don't think this has been a colour scheme on N/N's before? Comments please anyone else? Lee.
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| I would love to read it, but it still hasn't shipped from Amazon. I don't know what the delay is. Perhaps another low print run, but surely not?
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| Try NHBS books in Totnes, Devon. They always ship on the dot or a day early on official publication date of each New Nat new edition so no delays & you can phone & speak to them about your order or standing order but you cannot do that with Amazon. They always have a pre- publication offer price too. £38.99 for "Books & Naturalists" instead of £50.00. Postage is usually £2.99. Hope this is useful if you are fed up waiting for Amazon to deliver the goods & NHBS Books always guarantee a First Edition/First Printing of each N/N edition. Lee.
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Lee is right; I have a standing order with NHBS and they are always prompt. My copy, which had to travel all the way to the west coast of the US, arrived in my post box yesterday.
Cheers,
John
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| Problems with my copy - on several pages (notably 131 and 163) there are marks from the 'rollers' at the press clearly present...much like you get on an inkjet printer when the rollers need cleaning. Sigh. Have to contact my supplier and ask for a replacement.
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| Yes same on my copy (bought from Amazon): not too bad on p. 131 as only shows on lower blank margin to page (the dark plate above masks it). More of a problem on p. 163 as two parallel lines track down the length of the page. Judicious rubbing with a pencil eraser has cleared most of it (don't rub on the text or illustrations as it will lift some of the the ink producing a lightening effect). Like my wallpapering you can now only see the fault if you know where to look so I won't bother returning my copy to Amazon.
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It's the sort of thing I'd be perfectly willing to accept on a 5.99 airport paperback, but I'm afraid not on a £50 (well £46 inc p&p for this one) item like this where condition is a major factor in the appeal of the things....
Are they all like this, then?
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| I have finally got mine from Amazon (do they buy rejects or seconds?). Mine has the faults as listed previously, just about acceptable. Most people won't know about this fault, because they don't read the books (Ha Ha!). Thanks to the earlier posting about an alternative supplier. Meanwhile my attempts to find a nice first edition of The Natural History of Pollination continues and continues..some dealers have them but want too much.
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Here's the reply I got from my supplier:
Unfortunately all copies of Books and Naturalists have these marks. It is a fault with the whole of the first edition. If Collins decide to reprint the book, then it will not be a genuine first impression. You can return the book if you would like to but I cannot replace the book with a copy that does not have these marks.
Is that actually the case? Does every copy have these marks? If so, that's a pretty poor sign of quality control from Collins then. It appears I'm being forced to accept what is effectively a defective 'second' on the basis that it is original and therefore acceptable. Not impressed I'm afraid....
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Hengus (26/02/2010)
Here's the reply I got from my supplier:
Unfortunately all copies of Books and Naturalists have these marks. It is a fault with the whole of the first edition.
Is that actually the case? Does every copy have these marks? If so, that's a pretty poor sign of quality control from Collins then.As posted elsewhere my signed First Edition arrived this morning directly from Collins - I hadn't opened it until reading the earlier posts but I've just removed Hengus's "beloved" cellophance wrapper from my copy and it also has these marks on pages 163 and at the lower edge of p131. I am assuming that Collins would have checked the limited edition copies if they knew of the fault and could have rectified it ... at least, I hope they would given the higher price of these editions. Alex, any comments? Are all copies of this title similarly faulty? Bill
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