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Posted 02 November 2009
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Can't wait to see the adverts on ebay for the limited edtion of Art of New Naturalists (only 50 available) - what price do you think?

£500+

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Posted 02 November 2009
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In my experience, there doesn't seem to be a huge market in the leather NNs at the moment, not helped by the fact Collins were misinforming the world most of the editions were sold out when actually they were obviously just holding them back to sell through their new website. There do (as has been pointed out elsewhere on here) seem to be remaindered copies of some of the 'larger run' titles about as well. I guess this book may be an exception but I'd still be very surprised to see copies changing hands at the sort of price you mention for a long time to come.
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Posted 25 November 2009
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I wonder how many people will not keep the loose blue band around the D/J? I could do with a larger D/J protector as my other ones kindly supplied by Tim Loe at a good price only fit normal size N/N titles. A good D/J protector will pretty much keep this blue band in place. Any alternative ideas anyone?   
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Posted 26 November 2009
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Lee3764 (25/11/2009)
I wonder how many people will not keep the loose blue band around the D/J? I could do with a larger D/J protector as my other ones kindly supplied by Tim Loe at a good price only fit normal sizeN/Ntitles. A good D/J protector will pretty much keep this blue band in place. Any alternative ideas anyone?


Unless I'm missing something, there isn't a Dust Jacket on The Art of the New Naturalists, is there?

I'm still interested to know which of the bands is the common one (see another thread)...mine states "Art of the New Naturalists - Peter Marren, Robert Gillmor and Clifford & Rosemary Ellis on the front" whereas others just have Peter Marren and Robert Gillmor's name.

As for protection, a clear roll like this cut to size does the job...

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Posted 26 November 2009
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No; I was mistaken. My copy doesn't have a D/J but it will be interesting to see how many collectors actually keep the blue band. Mine says......' Art of the New Naturalists  Peter Marren & Robert Gillmor' on front of blue band & same on spine of blue band.

Lee

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Posted 27 November 2009
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The original and now abandoned, and therefore scarce, paper band - a sort of cummerbund rather than a jacket (but without a waist to fasten it to) - included the names of Clifford and Rosemary Ellis - as if they were joint authors along with Marren and Gillmor.  It is said this met with some criticism on a number of occasions in the run up to publication but evidently it persisted at least until the book's launch at the New Naturalists' Club event in Gloucester after which the reception appears to have finally convinced Collins that the Ellis names didn't belong and a new band was hastily printed and the original version pulped.  Personally I saw the inclusion of the Ellis names as credit to the fact that a large portion of the art work in the book was theirs - but illustrators don't normally appear alongside author credits and it was somewhat enigmatic.

I am at least as intrigued as to what prompted the mini-slip of a jacket.  Was it a stylistic attempt on the part of a designer to be original, allowing form to undercut function?  Or was it merely paper economy?

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Posted 28 November 2009
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The original and now abandoned, and therefore scarce, paper band - a sort of cummerbund rather than a jacket(but without a waist to fasten it to) - included the names of Clifford and Rosemary Ellis - as if they were joint authors along with Marren and Gillmor. It is saidthismet with some criticism on a number of occasions in the run up to publication but evidently it persisted at least until the book's launch at the New Naturalists' Club event in Gloucester after which the reception appears to have finally convinced Collins that the Ellis names didn't belong and a new band was hastily printed and the original version pulped. Personally I saw the inclusion of theEllis names as credit to the fact that a large portion of theart work in the book was theirs - but illustrators don't normally appear alongside author credits and it was somewhat enigmatic.

I am at least as intrigued as to what prompted the mini-slip of a jacket. Was it a stylistic attempt on the part of a designer to be original, allowing form to undercut function? Or was it merely paper economy?


Thanks for the explanation. I understand the logic, but then how is Gillmor an author? It is all a little odd.

Still, I note a signed copy with the original band is now up and running on eBay....!
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Posted 28 November 2009
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Hengus (28/11/2009)
[quote]I understand the logic, but then how is Gillmor an author? It is all a little odd.

Not odd at all - the book is joint-authored by Peter Marren and Robert Gillmor.   Peter wrote the copy relating to the Ellis jackets and Gillmor wrote the text relating to his covers.

... and a great read it is too.

Bill

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Posted 28 November 2009
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I have protected my copy with a 302mm plastic wallet similar to those used on paperbacks in libraries. It is an 'Adjustable Lyfjacket' and is available from a company called Book Protectors & Co. A Google search should throw them up. (The additional few mm's at the top of the book can be folded down to protect the tops of the pages from dust. Splendid items.)
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Posted 14 December 2009
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Does any member possibly have a spare blue band for the book 'Art of the new naturalists' which shows the artists names....Peter Marren & Robert Gillmor and Clifford and Rosemary Ellis that they could spare please? Does everyone keep this blue band? or is it just the fussy few that will keep them pristine as they only easily stay in position if the book has a jacket protector of the book is lightly wedged between two other books. If anyone can help then please leave a message on this forum or email me on  leelisa1998@aol.com

Thanks.........Lee Slaughter.

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