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RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Hengus — Sat, 08 May 2010 12:04:17 GMT

[quote][b]Lee3764 (07/05/2010)[/b][hr][quote][b]Hengus (07/05/2010)[/b][hr][quote]

By the way, this posting of mine is the 500th since the new forum was created by our friends at Collins. Thanks to all!

Lee.[/quote]

Why does it say Post 641, then?[/quote]

Dunno....maybe Collins have 'purged/deleted' some?

The forum home page states near the bottom '1,926 members have posted 502 posts within 86 topics.' at the moment (7/5/2010).

No idea what happened to the extra 141 postings?

Lee.[/quote]

Conspiracy theory alert :-)

RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Lee3764 — Fri, 07 May 2010 20:38:59 GMT

[quote][b]Hengus (07/05/2010)[/b][hr][quote]

By the way, this posting of mine is the 500th since the new forum was created by our friends at Collins. Thanks to all!

Lee.[/quote]

Why does it say Post 641, then?[/quote]

Dunno....maybe Collins have 'purged/deleted' some?

The forum home page states near the bottom '1,926 members have posted 502 posts within 86 topics.' at the moment (7/5/2010).

No idea what happened to the extra 141 postings?

Lee.

RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Brendan — Fri, 07 May 2010 15:59:17 GMT

I've got some sympathy for Collins on this one - perhaps it's more of an issue for the copies that make it through to retail? I can definitely imagine a copy in a bookshop getting pretty tatty with just a bit of handling - the matt dustjackets are definitely less fingerprint-proof than most books, and the people who would actually buy the books are probably fussier than the average reader! Perhaps the solution would be to put mail order copies in paper wrapper or envelope inside the box, and have cellophane wrapped copies sent out to booksellers?

RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Hengus — Fri, 07 May 2010 07:52:49 GMT

[quote]

By the way, this posting of mine is the 500th since the new forum was created by our friends at Collins. Thanks to all!

Lee.[/quote]

Why does it say Post 641, then?

RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Lee3764 — Thu, 06 May 2010 21:30:52 GMT

Alex
Collins[/quote]

Smudged & Grubby?? If handled in a clean & precise way & assuming the Dust-jackets are of decent quality the surely this shouldn't be the case would it? I have not incurred damaged D/J's due to the cellophane but it does need removing with some care to avoid causing damage to the dust-jacket by doing so!

By the way, this posting of mine is the 500th since the new forum was created by our friends at Collins. Thanks to all!

Lee.

RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Hengus — Thu, 06 May 2010 11:41:24 GMT

[quote][b]Collins (06/05/2010)[/b][hr]Quick update on why the books are shrinkwrapped - if they were not the jacketswould be smudged and grubby. It was in fact due to requests from NN collectors that they were shrinkwrapped in protective cellophane, so looks like we have come full circle!

Alex
Collins[/quote]

So how come all sorts of other books of a similar dimension, many made by Harper Collins, are sent to book shops and posted without cellophane wrappers and arrive in perfect condition without appearing smudged and grubby.

The argument is not with the cellophane wrappers per se, is it...its quite simply that this method used to seal these books [b]does [i][/i][/b]damage them. Its a fact. IF copies were being sent out smudged and grubby before and this is the solution, the obvious conclusion is that this solution creates a problem equally as bad, so another solution is needed. But personally, I never had a smudged, grubby edition prior to the wrappers being introduced.

What about the paper wrappers that go around the leatherbound volumes? Couldn't they do the job?

In the 'good old days', books were individually wrapped in thickish paper before being boxed. Some smaller printing houses still do that.

RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Collins — Thu, 06 May 2010 09:28:49 GMT

Quick update on why the books are shrinkwrapped - if they were not the jackets would be smudged and grubby. It was in fact due to requests from NN collectors that they were shrinkwrapped in protective cellophane, so looks like we have come full circle!

Alex
Collins

RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Collins — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:57:03 GMT

Hi Sirem sorry to hear about this please email newnaturalists@harpercollins.co.uk with details.

Thanks

Alex
Collins

RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

sirrem — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:32:43 GMT

Sorry that my first post has to be a gripe - I'm normally just a very interested reader. However just received signed Ian Newton's Migration. Book in great condition but wrapper creased top and bottom possibly by the cellophane shrink-wrapping process. Not even "Fine" let alone "Mint". So will be returning for replacement. An avoidable waste of time, effort and expense.

RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Andy B — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:45:03 GMT

I also have a dislike of the cellophane wrapper which in my opinion causes creasing of the jacket at the head and tail of the spine.

Andy

RE: Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Lee3764 — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:24:59 GMT

[quote][b]Hengus (24/02/2010)[/b][hr]A simple question for Collins...why?!

In my opinion, they actually damage the books, certainly the Dust Jackets of the books (which if they overhang even slightly, which they normally do on one edge, are always curled), rather than protect them.

I genuinely can't understand what purpose they serve (or you think they serve)?

Didn't publishers used to wrap titles (say 5 or 10 depending on the size of the book) in paper? I suppose this is progress (oh dear, I've just turned into my father).

They are also a pain in the rear end because you can never tell what you are buying (or wanting to sell)!

Don't like 'em. There, I feel better now :-)[/quote]

Interesting thought............................If all these faulty N/N's 112 are sealed with this thin cellophane then how can a dealer/seller of these books tell that all of their stock have these roller marks on those two pages if every book is sealed by the manufacturer in cellophane? I'm not fussed about having the cellophane on my brand new book as long as my 1st edition arrives in mint condition! It's only more oil based waste that will mostly end up in landfill!

Cheers,

Lee.

Cellophane wrappers for newly published titles

Hengus — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:40:40 GMT

A simple question for Collins...why?!

In my opinion, they actually damage the books, certainly the Dust Jackets of the books (which if they overhang even slightly, which they normally do on one edge, are always curled), rather than protect them.

I genuinely can't understand what purpose they serve (or you think they serve)?

Didn't publishers used to wrap titles (say 5 or 10 depending on the size of the book) in paper? I suppose this is progress (oh dear, I've just turned into my father).

They are also a pain in the rear end because you can never tell what you are buying (or wanting to sell)!

Don't like 'em. There, I feel better now :-)